Some people had to use anabolic steroids because herbs weren't strong enough. Proton-pump inhibitors: Should I still be taking this medication? Now and for the past six months, I feel great, my libido is great, mental issues are gone, ED is gone. Other: Issues retaining and producing muscle, rectal muscle pain, spike in lower-abdomen fat, also has anyone noticed a rapid increase in earwax production? Look, it's as simple as this. The PubMed wordmark and PubMed logo are registered trademarks of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Even my genitals began to grow normal size again. Adverse effects of common medications on male fertility. Metabolism of progesterone and testosterone into 5alpha-reduced metabolites and their mechanisms of action: effects of finasteride and dutasteride. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} Check his posts and look at the reasons. Pharmacological Management of Pattern Hair Loss. Do they benefit from people who have pfs so their foundation can continue and ask for more donations? Common finasteride side effects include loss of libido, breast enlargement, erectile dysfunction (ED), and lower ejaculatory volume. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} I haven't had that sort of performance since I was 19 or 20 years old. The presence of side effects during pharmacological treatment is unfortunately a quite common problem. 2012;97:306. Any doctor interested in giving an opinion on the case? National Library of Medicine If you have retrograde ejaculation, you'll likely need treatment to get your female partner pregnant. These include: Prostate pain Persistent fatigue, exhaustion Stomach pains and digestive problems Constipation Blurry vision Propecia is the Biggest Regret of my Life Taking Propecia is the biggest regret of my life, PK said. When did you first begin having dry orgasms? A community dedicated to people suffering long term effects after taking 5-ar inhibitors such as Propecia/Finasteride, or for people who wish to know more about the constellation of symptoms commonly known as Post Finasteride Syndrome. Around 8 months and i was pretty much recovered. No energy. How much worse can it get then being a lifeless piece of flesh that hasnt been erect or had any kind of sensation in months and months? What medications or herbal remedies do you take? Your doctor might also do a physical exam that includes examining your penis, testicles and rectum. And quite frankly, if you think big pharma doesn't have millions and millions of dollars wrapped up in trying to cover up just how severely finasteride has destroyed mens' lives, you're fooling yourself. "Mayo," "Mayo Clinic," "MayoClinic.org," "Mayo Clinic Healthy Living," and the triple-shield Mayo Clinic logo are trademarks of Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. I was on TRT when I got PFS. https://forum.propeciahelp.com/t/my-story-yes-it-was-messy-and-yes-i-am-fine-now/5456. Psychopharmacology (Berlin) 2014;231:35693580. Thats probably the worst part if you only read that forum youre pretty much going to feel hopeless. Anejaculation and retrograde ejaculation. Ohl DA, et al. Epub 2010 Dec 22. And youre competely right, they make it sound like youre doomed and you shouldnt try anything but wait for the Baylor study and fill out the surveyDo they really expect some magical cure to come out when Baylor releases or their survey has enough participants? On PFS forums, peoples dicks got 1 inch bigger when erect, here and there, they sometimes felt sexual attraction towards women. I am 100% reversed Keep in mind if I miss a dose or stop my protocol Pfs comes back full force. Feeling low-grade depression constantly. This site complies with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health information: verify here. No interest in sex at all. This procedure is usually done at the doctor's office. There was this guy on propecia help called JustQuitDut who was a complete psycho, who thought that taking TRT with estrogen blockers would somehow solve it. Pumpkin Seed Oil-Loaded Niosomes for Topical Application: 5-Reductase Inhibitory, Anti-Inflammatory, and In Vivo Anti-Hair Loss Effects. Personally, I believe its become the boogeyman for a bucket list of sexual problems. After taking 50mg of Proviron I got my first erection in years. For what it's worth, here's a couple similar success stories involving numbness, but from PSSD instead of PFS: Testosterone along with initial estrogen management , completely cured my pssd, everything from numbness, to hard on quality , no morning wood, to actually having sexual desires again. After stopping 7 weeks later (when I ran out of my proviron), things felt off for a few weeks but then after around two months I got back to my pre-PFS state. A. Finasteride (sold as Proscar and generic brands) is prescribed for symptoms of an enlarged prostate; it's also used at a lower strength (under the name Propecia) for male pattern baldness. 2013 Oct;10(10):2598-603. doi: 10.1111/jsm.12269. A mod answered and I answered the guy in a normal way, but they deleted my reply and blocked my account. I have had a recent report of a man who went on Human Growth Hormone and reversed his post finasteride syndrome sexual dysfunction. decreased libido * (sex drive) erectile dysfunction *. Next to no sensitivity in my genitals. Res. https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/m5m7o9/help_steroids_for_pssd/gr0uhqj/. My personal experience is that finasteride is an important medication for older guys on TRT that are experiencing BPH. Authors received funding from the Post-Finasteride Foundation in order to study PFS symptomatology of patients and in experimental models. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This content does not have an English version. Maybe if theyre lucky in 10 years. You're likely to start by seeing your family doctor. I took intramuscular injections of HCG every 3 a 5 days 1500 to 3000 ui by injections for 1 months only, and after that some Clomid for 10 days 2 pills by day It helped relaunch the natural testorene levels so my libido increased again i am now totally satisfied with my health :slight_smile: https://forum.propeciahelp.com/t/i-believe-i-have-been-cured-by-accident/4054, Yes After nearly 4 years of suffering, I have finally & fully recovered from Post Finasteride Syndrome, All my symptoms have subsided and improved with this method which takes a while but I am fully functional. It can cause bladder and urination problems. Preparing a list of questions before your appointment can help you make the most of your time together. All rights reserved. Im suffering from pfs for 3+ years now so pfs is very real sadly but I believe the dudes article is the best explenation Ive read so far. That's far from severe. The mods on that forum are fascists and dont allow the opinion and theory of other people. https://forum.propeciahelp.com/t/joekool-s-story-long-term-hcg/46717. Especially at an Early Age Like in Their 20s? Retrograde ejaculation can be especially challenging if you and your partner want to conceive a child. I will tell you how I solved my problem with post-finasteride syndrome, which produces no erections or little libido even if you have stopped taking the famous drug years ago. -. https://old.reddit.com/r/FinasterideSyndrome/comments/psjeuu/could_trying_finasteride_for_1_month_be_harmfull/he38hlf/. Hcg I did 3000iu the first day then 250iu every other day for the four weeks. Do you and your partner want to have a baby? ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} This content does not have an Arabic version. I remember being depressed, emasculated, and hopeless. 2015;104:107. I cannot say enough about this. In order to achieve a pregnancy, you need to ejaculate enough semen to carry your sperm into your partner's vagina and into her uterus. This is to be expected because you are messing with a hormone (DHT) that is very important for sexual function. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Im only able to maintain arousal under very peculiar circumstances, and even thats not the level of hardness Im used to having pre-fin. When seeing your doctor for dry ejaculation the primary sign of retrograde ejaculation some basic questions to ask your doctor include: If you're trying to get your female partner pregnant, you might also want to ask: In addition to the questions that you've prepared to ask your doctor, don't hesitate to ask additional questions during your appointment. Post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) is a constellation of serious adverse side effects manifested in clinical symptoms that develop and persist in patients during and/or after discontinuing finasteride treatment in men with pattern hair loss (androgenetic alopecia) or benign prostatic hyperplasia. Est. Do a physical exam, which will likely include an exam of your penis, testicles and rectum. This after having PFS constantly for 11 years. I feel like I have my life back. I recovered and I hope all of you suffering from PFS recover too. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} Wider recognition of PFS symptoms, its incidence, course, prevention, and treatment possibilities will allow the indications for drug use to be reconsidered and treatment to be more personalized. I had all the classic symptoms. Yeah the joe_kool guy or whatever his name is had really good luck with TRT, he is honestly the reason I went down this road. Therefore, I cut the pills in half (2.5mg) and toss the other half. WebDr Jordan Grant and Gil T talk about Post Finasteride Syndrome Recovery (PFS recovery). Do tests to see pregnenolone, progesterone, testosterone, DHT, thyroid (TSH, total and free T4 and T3, rT3), estradiol, estrone-sulfate and cortisol (both blood and 24h saliva). Your doctor will want to determine whether your dry orgasms are retrograde ejaculation or linked to another problem that may need further evaluation. I suspect its because my E2 was so low already and that made it feel even lower (single digits if I recall correctly). WebIn addition to the sexual, mental and physical side effects, PK suffers from miscellaneous issues connected with PFS. It looked like it had been around the world a few times. Sign up to get tips for living a healthy lifestyle, with ways to fight inflammation and improve cognitive health, plus the latest advances in preventative medicine, diet and exercise, pain relief, blood pressure and cholesterol management, andmore. Pornography usually has to be in the picture but there are RARE times when I get a spontaneous boner I can play with that will stick around and I can achieve orgasm with or without pornography. Q. I have heard that finasteride, which I take for my prostate problem, can cause permanent impotence. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} Careers. It can prevent hair loss and decrease prostate enlargement, but not surprisingly, it can also suppress sexual function. Feeling dissociated and never present. Biomolecules. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} Urology. 2022 Oct 26;12(11):1567. doi: 10.3390/biom12111567. Last time I was on there they had started discussing some relationships between HCG and Thyroid? My life is finally back. They kept saying it was on the verge of having a major announcement 2 YEARS ago. Indian J Plast Surg. Amedical opinion on this procedure would be important, because we do not have scientific evidence about HCG and PFS, but it would already be a start. After a bit over a week I decreased the dose to 10mg before bedtime and none in the afternoon. Fertil Steril. Drugs to treat retrograde ejaculation are drugs primarily used to treat other conditions, including: Imipramine, an antidepressant. To date, the PFS Foundation has identified 104 such professionals who have published scientific findings and/or voiced opinions on causative links between finasteride and PFS. Some of these same doctors and researchers are also members of our Medical Professionals team, counseling PFS patients and their loved ones worldwide. It is available as a generic. Therefore, results here discussed indicate that PFS is an emerging clinical problem that needs to be further elucidated. Mod also deleted my second post where I said he indeed has affiliate links to herbs but doesnt even believe that will be enough for pfs patients, the real cure is proviron, of course he doesnt have any affliate links to those products. 2016;93:9. WTF. Fertility and Sterility. I only said everyone should read it, especially in light of the big new proviron recovery on the forum there. Its less than ideal though when trying to help people and you get banned for it, That forum is a farce, it seems their solution is to just wait, could help for some but others are waiting for years without improving. Even Viagra wouldnt get me hard. Indeed, some national agencies (e.g., Swedish Medical Products Agency, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency of UK and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration) required to include multiple persistent side effects within the finasteride labels. I cycled herbal androgen boosting supplements combined with intense workouts (I am a bodybuilder). -, Baig M.S., Kolasa-Wolosiuk A., Pilutin A., Safranow K., Baranowska-Bosiacka I., Kabat-Koperska J., Wiszniewska B. Finasteride-induced inhibition of 5alpha-reductase type 2 could lead to kidney damage-animal, experimental study. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} In this review, we focused our attention on adverse events related to 5 alpha-reductase (5-R) inhibitors (i.e., finasteride and dutasteride), approved for the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia (AGA). ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} When dosed properly, it can bring DHT within normal ranges very effectively. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none}
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