how this would manifest? I know that there is a purpose regarding this relationship, but i cant find it I am in a relationship with a man for 14 years in which we have an extremely strong synastry including my saturn conjunct his venus by degree, his saturn/node conjunct my sun/chiron by degree. In astrology, the Twelfth House governs the unconscious, addiction, jails, higher self, and psychic abilities. Im kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. That may mean leaving you behind. He just wanted to keep it physical until one of us gets married with someone else. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. Thats for start. Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. Astrology Symbols, Elements, Modalities, & House Types. Venus is the planet of love which makes him lovable by his likable behavior and persuasive way of talking. Should I pay attention to that or to our individual charts? Im glad youre enjoying it. The 12th house conjunction in Cancer indicates that there is a nurturing issue between you that needs resolving. I still feel a strong connection to him, but in a way, I guess I have come to reasonable terms with not being with him. Our mars is in cap in 3rd house and mars in 11th house libra. (anyone who has ever fallen in love and had planets with that person in 12th composite will know..). You need a synastry reading to make sense of all this. Our date was perfect but too creepy cause he told his very deep secrets and early regrets to me. Comparing composites to the biwheel between two charts is impossible, like comparing apples and oranges. Have you any thoughts or words to share on the 12th house commonalities we have individually, and what impact it lends to us as a couple? This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? I could love this man more than my husband who is a caring man and in a way very similar to this man. I met with a guy 2 months ago and when we saw each other, -there is no doubt that- we were both fascinated by each other. Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Your article is amazing! Just a knowing if you will. what do you think it means to have such much weight in the 1st and 12th houses? Of course, this can lead to overspending and a tendency to overvalue anything that is overindulgent and impractical, but the positive energy Jupiter brings will generally get you through it. Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! We went through hell together, we loved each other, we saved each other, we saved others together, we could practically feel and read one another. I and my boyfriend have conjunction of mars-venus in twelfth house (taurus) closely conjuncting composite gemini ascendant. Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! Juno is also important. Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. Black Moon Lilith in the Twelfth House - Gifts of Shadow And would that mean -lets say- if this persons partners personal planets conjuncts to his north node would he lose the partner or would he lose god because he put that person (her planets) between himself and god! Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. I was the Sun/Ascendant person, while he was the Lilith person. Neptune causes us to turn our other into gods. The feelings I have are much deeper than lust and infatuation. I met her near the end of my Saturn return (Cancer in the 4th house) and I am aware of deep wounds in me around my need for nurturing and I wonder if my neediness in this area may have something to do with it all. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. We have a composite 12th house sun mars and venus in Cancer! I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). When Pluto is conjunct the North Node, our mistakes can be more dramatic and our adjustments have to be greater. Is this why I am feeling this more? 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. As the article says : this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. The higher powers are always tapping at the door, insisting on change, cleansing, and renewal from within (Pluto/Uranus in Virgo), but how do you do that if your connection to the other world and the higher powers are full of fear and resistant to the necessary dissolving that must occur (Saturn in Pisces). He literally proposed to me the night we met. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. When transit Pluto is in the composite 12th house, you may feel more powerful and connected in the relationship when its just the two of you, behind closed doors, no one to bother. Everything you said is so on point. This secrecy he is practising probably points to the venus-mars in composite twelfth ? I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. Lilith in the 12th House is an unusual placement because it revolves around the dark side of your life and its unseen parts. Thank you, Tricia. I still could love this man with his faults which I know he has but he is so caring and nice. Thank you. Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. Saturn and Pluto and Ascedant. People born with Chiron in the 12th house struggle with their psyche, spirituality, and vulnerability. (Because the moon's orbit is elliptical, it has two center . a strong karmic tie is indicated in the 12th house, or in the other water houses 4,8. But, our composite chart is weird. Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. Because, of Saturn and Pluto? Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. Hi Dawn. Transit Saturn in the Composite 12th House. Felt and feels karmic, but alas, it was definitely not meant to be.for now. Having someone else's planets in these houses (especially the 5 th, 7 th, and 8 th houses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. Our strongest aspect is Saturn Trine Moon. Thank You so much for Your answer! Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? The attraction was instant. And I dont think you can fully understand Pisces without understanding its relation to Jupiter as well as Neptune. Aghh! Hi Dawn, are you able to give me anymore insight or know where I might find more information about 12th house stellium in cancer planets are sun,moon,Mercury and Venus in my husband and my composite chart. I loved you from the first moment and that has never changed.) In the 10 years, he (who had been separated from his wife when we first met) went back to his wife, I got engaged to someone else but broke it off realizing I do not love my fiance, reconnected as just friends, and I eventually married someone else, with his blessings. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. Then you have to put the natal charts around the composite, and there are a number of other techiques depending on what questions are asked: coalescent charts, draconic charts, etc. Thank you. My sympathies. You are interested in psychology, religion, spirituality too. Thank you for reading and I hope this story helps reveal more about the 12th house in composites. Its not special, its common. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Yes There is a higher purpose to these relationships. thank you for your insight, thank you !!! So beautifully written Dawn. It also works the other way. He didnt want to commit/marry. Chiron in 12th House - Synastry and Meaning - Astro Majesty In the second house of values, beware . Usually, life will present us with huge dilemmas that cause us to choose between the ego and the soul path. It has been a long, hard road, but rewarding and with the planets in Cancer, SO hard to let go. He knows me better than I know myself at times. any input would be greatly appreciated!!! The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. Dear Dawn, thank you for this amazing article. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). (We also have some 4th and 8th house synastry with me as the planet person, and 3 planets in the composite 4th). Entering through my dreams, plenty of astral seduction going on out there in the ethers. Hes Gemini sun . Sometimes the twelfth house energies become lost, and we create false gods from what we cannot find within us (for example, those with Leo on the 12th house cusp may worship creative expression, but not be able to find it in themselves). That I could be around someone and not feel uncomfortable. I am not certain this person is a fit but yet there are alot of coincidences between us that keeps me boggled on the larger picture. Sorry, I cant respond to lists of aspects. Transit Mercury in the 12th House Meaning, Transit Birth Chart, Mercury The sixth and the eighth house are also karmic houses. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. Synastries (especially composite charts) are complicated and if confused (or you feel threatened) you should consult a professional. The person with the most crowded 12th house in history is Ann Margret, a Swedish born actor best known for her iconic Easy Rider bike scene and starring in Viva Los Vegas alongside Elvis Presley. It's a nightmare sometimes. You mentioned that couples with 12th house emphasis usually come together for a specific purpose and once that is completed the relationship is destined to end (thats what I gathered anyway). The trauma you have experienced can be in relationships. Also, I would think that the answer to your issues is not in the composite, but in your natal comparison. We also have 3 composite planets and an asteroid in house 8. My fiance and I have an exact conjunction of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in Taurus with Venus also being the chart ruler and placed in the 1st. The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that its real, but it doesnt matter. Indicators for a New Relationship in the Solar Return Chart I have been so confused and you describe it so accurately. But also to wound each other? Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. Lilith square . Tendency to become a victim; cult of mystery; exploration of the suffering of others. Predicting for Relationships - Astrodienst sounds pathetic, but thats just the nature of 12th house love; you cant downsize or decrease its feeling and meaning.. What a way to describe it ~ nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives or my life as far as i know, this was exactly how I confused myself in this short and intense relationship with an ex. All that subconscious provoking of each other is very much a full time job and its preventing me from being successful in life and meeting a man that can offer the support i need to really fly. I have learned to surrender much but our relationship isnt surviving, we cant let go altogether and cant seem to be together. Who cares? Just not what I wanted to hear.
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